The
Paleolithic Diet and Its Modern Implications
An Interview with Loren
Cordain, PhD
by Robert Crayhon, MS Reprinted
by permission from
Life Services
Robert Crayhon:
Some assert
that too much protein, even beyond 6070 grams per day, is bad
for people, will damage the kidneys and liver and cause bone
loss. Yet we find people groups around the world who eat a pound
or more of meat per day and don't seem to have any of these
problems. What does you're research suggest?

Loren Cordain:
Epidemiological studies have suggested that increased animal
protein intake is associated with higher rates of osteoporotic
fracture, and many metabolic trials have demonstrated increased
urinary calcium losses with increased protein intake.
However, in order to firmly establish cause and effect, and
hence proof, that a certain variable is responsible for a
certain effect, scientists conduct intervention trials. To my
knowledge intervention studies have not been able to show that a
change from low/moderate to high protein intake increases that
rate of kidney stones or bone loss in either humans or animals.
Stone
age diets clearly were characterized by extremely high protein
intakes by modern standards, yet bone robusticity and density
(determined from fossil paleolithic humans) were greater than or
equal to that of most modern humans despite the total absence of
dairy products in stone age diets.
This
seeming paradox (low calcium intake, high protein intake yet
strong dense bones) may probably be explained by multiple
factors. Stone age humans were more active than modern people
and consequently the everyday work they did resulted in greater
bone loading, which in turn can influence bone density.
Further, they lived outside most of the day so their sunshine
exposure and hence vitamin D status would likely have been
superior to most modern people who work indoors and get little
sunshine exposure.
Lastly, and most importantly, the critical dietary factor
influencing bone metabolism and hence osteoporosis is not
calcium intake, nor calcium excretion, but rather calcium
balance.
The acid base status of the total diet rather than calcium
intake or excretion determines calcium balance (Barzel US. The
skeleton as an ion exchange: implications for the role of
acid-base imbalance in the genesis of osteoporosis. J Bone Miner
Res. 1995; 10: 1431-36).
Foods which yield a net acidic load mainly as sulfates and
phosphates cause the kidneys to respond to this dietary acid
challenge with net acid excretion, as well as ammonium and
titratable acid excretion. Concurrently, the skeleton supplies
buffer by active resorption of bone. Consequently, calciuria is
directly related to net acid excretion (Barzel US, Massey LK
Excess dietary protein can adversely affect bone. J Nutr 1998;
128:1051-53).
Foods which cause a net acid excretion include meat, fish,
cheeses and grains (Remer T, et al. Potential renal acid loads
of foods and its influence on urine pH. J Am Diet Assoc. 1995
Jul; 95: 791-97). Fruits and vegetables have a net alkaline
value and consequently reduce acid excretion and hence reduce
calciuria thereby halting bone resorption and actually allowing
bone accretion to occur.
Although the dietary calcium to protein ration in stone age
diets would have been quite low, the large amount of fruits and
vegetables (35% of total energy) included in the diet would have
produced a net dietary acid-base status which would have favored
bone accretion even in the face of enormous protein intakes.
Similarly, nephro and urolithiiasis would have been reduced from
the high levels of fruit and vegetable consumption via their
ability to reduce the potential renal acid load.
Robert Crayhon:
...and
they thrived and were very healthy on that. And this is
apparently due to the imbalance in their macronutrients?
Loren Cordain:
Yes,
these populations tend to have very characteristic blood lipid
parameters indicative of syndrome X. They tend to have elevated
triglycerides and VLDL cholesterol and reduced HDL cholesterol.
Also, the oxidative profile of their lipids tends to be worse
than the oxidative profile of some westerner populations because
cereal grains which have no vitamin C or no pro-vitamin A
beta-carotene may sometimes displace fruits and vegetables which
are a rich source of both of these antioxidants.
Further, cereal grains tend to have a high Omega-6/Omega-3 ratio
because they are high in linoleic acid and low in linolenic. The
oxidizability of the LDL molecule increases when it's loaded up
with Omega-6 fats (linoleic acid primarily).
Robert Crayhon:
...even
though the Omega-3 fats are technically more delicate fats?
Loren Cordain:
Recent
in vivo studies suggest this may not be the case.
Robert Crayhon:
This
brings us to the enormous topic of the shift in the kinds of
fats in the Paleolithic even through the last centuries favoring
the Omega-6's...safflower, sunflower, corn oil, and arachidonic
acid rich meats devoid of EPA/DHA as opposed to...
Loren Cordain:
This
shift has only occurred in the last 80 years or so. The
information is equivocal on arachidonic acid. Initial
experiments indicated that arachidonic acid had mainly
deleterious effects. A recent metabolic ward study of
arachidonic acid indicates otherwise (Nelson GJ, et al. A human
dietary arachidonic acid supplementation study conducted in a
metabolic research unit: rationale and design. Lipids. 1997; 32:
415-420).
Arachidonic acid is an essential fatty acid in virtually every
cell of the body, and it is an important precursor for
prostanoid synthesis and tissue function.

More recent data suggests that the balance of arachidonic acid
to long chain Omega-3 fatty acid may be more important in
influencing health than absolute dietary intakes of arachidonic
acid.
Robert Crayhon:
How
much Omega-3 to Omega-6 should we have in our diet?
Loren Cordain:
In our
laboratory, we have analyzed various tissues in wild game meat
and we have found that
muscle
tissue contains Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio of 3.5-4 to 1.
This ratio is higher in storage fat and bone marrow, and
slightly lower in certain organs. In the brain, this ratio is 1
to 1. Pre-agricultural humans, as opposed to modern humans,
enjoyed eating the organs of wild animals. Certainly, they were
eating the brains of the animals that they killed.
The Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio couldn't have been much lower than
4 to 1 if we only ate the meat. If we only ate the brain, it
would have been roughly 1 to 1. If fish were included in the
diet, it would have further reduced the 4:1 ratio found in the
muscle of terrestrial animals. Additionally, the inclusion of
most plant foods (but not all) would have also reduced the 4:1
ratio. The conclusion I have come to is that:
The average Omega-6/Omega-3 ratio in pre-agricultural humans
would have always been lower than 4 to 1, but probably not lower
than 2 to 1 depending upon season, locale and macronutrient
intake.
Robert Crayhon:
Looking at the food guide pyramid now with the Paleolithic
perspective that you've helped create, what would you do if you
were to design an eating guide for humans as a species?
Loren Cordain:
The
evolutionary paradigm should be used a starting point for
designing optimal nutrition guides.
Clearly, it is not practical nor economically possible for all
of the world's people to eat wild game, fruits and vegetables.
However, the macronutrient and trace nutrient levels that
typically occur in reconstructed Stone Age diets should be
emulated in the design of healthful diets for modern people.
Humanity is totally dependent now upon cereal grains for
survival.
Cereal grains provide 56% of the food energy and 50% of the
protein consumed by all of the world's peoples.
Without them, there would be worldwide starvation of an
unprecedented proportion. we have wandered down a path of
absolute dependence upon cereal grains, a path from which there
is no return.
Robert Crayhon:
So
instead of 6-11 servings of these kinds of...well, on the
pyramid I think it's not just grain products but also potatoes
and other sorts of carbohydrates that are thrown in there. Would
you recommend keeping 2-3 servings per day of grain products or
less? Or is it really hard to make any guidelines?
Loren Cordain:
I
think that there is a significant amount of genetic variability
among people which may influence how well they do on various
types of diets. Insulin-resistant individuals do not seem to do
well on high carbohydrate diets, particularly if the
carbohydrate has a high glycemic index.
Generally, most people do quite well healthwise on 2-3 servings
of grain products per day. Clearly, cereal grains and
agriculture allowed for the dramatic worldwide human population
expansion that has occurred in the past 10,000 years since the
advent of agriculture.
I think what the USDA is trying to do with its Food Pyramid is
to give general dietary guidelines that are beneficial for most
people and which are economically feasible. I think my work is
not necessarily practical for making recommendations to all of
the world's people, but rather it points out how human diets may
be improved from an evolutionary perspective.
Robert Crayhon:
If you
could speak to the modern health care practitioner,
nutritionist, or physician and tell them the key things
Paleolithic research has taught us, what might those be?
Loren Cordain:
Animal
based diets can be healthful if designed with macronutrient and
trace nutrients that emulate those of our pre-agricultural
ancestors. Low fat, high carbohydrate cereal and legume-based
diets are not necessarily healthful. The implications of a
Paleolithic diet are that humans tend to do quite well on high
protein animal-based diets in many regards including vitamin,
minerals, and fatty acid profiles. The whole concept of
animal-based foods as deleterious needs to be rectified. And the
idea that if a little bit of whole grain is good for you, then a
lot should be better, needs to be reconsidered.
Robert Crayhon:
Why is
it that so many people are so adamant about the negative effects
of animal products? Is it because of the extraordinary
difference in quality between a piece of wild game meat that may
have 7-10% fat and fat of a high-quality, vs. cornfed cattle
that have 40% fat of a completely different nature? Is it the
pesticides or hormone residues in the meat? Is it all of the
above?
Loren Cordain:
Wild
game muscle averages about 2% fat by weight which translates to
about 15% by energy. Lean cuts of domestic meat may contain 5-7%
fat by weight and 30-35% fat by energy.
Robert Crayhon:
Even
the well-marbled meats?
Loren Cordain:
Fatty
cuts of domestic meat contain about 20% fat by weight and about
63% fat by energy.
Robert Crayhon:
Quite
different from Paleomeat. Would a nice lean flank steak from
your supermarket be 7-10% fat?
Loren Cordain:
It
could be slightly lower than that. There have been a couple of
studies that have shown that we are looking at the 5 to 7% range
in a lean cut of steak that has been cut of all visible fat, but
remember this value is by weight. Fat as a percent of total
calories would be approximately 30-35%. As far as growth
hormones and pesticide residues, I think the evidence is
equivocal and may not be as important as the differences in fat
content in terms of health and nutrition. Because pesticides and
heavy metals occur in areas that wild animals inhabit, they are
not entirely free of these toxins either.
Robert Crayhon:
What's
the best way to cook meat? How and when did Paleopeoples start
cooking their meat?
Loren Cordain:
Organized stone hearths (and hence the first concrete evidence
for the control of fire) probably did not occur until the
appearance of Neanderthals roughly 200,000 years ago. So prior
to this time, humans probably did not cook their meat. I do not
recommend, however, eating raw or slightly cooked meat because
of potential bacterial contamination.
Robert Crayhon:
What
is the best way to cook meat?

Loren Cordain:
The
way we tend to cook meat these days is very different from the
ways of hunters and gatherers who tend to slow-cook meats over a
long period of time. A favored cooking procedure was digging a
pit and putting in hot stones, putting in the whole animal or
portions of it, putting in vegetable matter and other stones
above the vegetable matter and cooking the meat all day long.
So what is suggested is slow cooking at low heat.
Robert Crayhon:
Throw
out the microwave and get a crock pot.
Loren Cordain:
Well,
yes. If you take a lean cut of venison, elk, or buffalo, and
throw it on the barbecue, you'll find it's as tough as rubber
but if you put it on a crock pot or a Dutch oven and cook it all
day long, you'll find that it will come out quite tender and
also, the nutrient content remains relatively high. Also, you
don't have to worry about bacterial problems.
Robert Crayhon:
I know
you're doing some groundbreaking work right now looking at the
role of high consumption of grains as a possible trigger for
many auto-immune diseases. Can you comment on that?
Loren Cordain:
We
don't have any clinical data at this point. We have a
theoretical model which points in many directions towards
exactly what you're saying.
Robert Crayhon:
Are
multiple sclerosis, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis rare in
populations where no grain products are consumed?
Loren Cordain:
Some
epidemiological evidence would indicate exactly that. Part of
the problem in getting epidemiological evidence like this is
that there are very few populations on this planet that don't
eat cereal grains...
Prior to acculturation, Eskimos and peoples of the far North
were reported to have a low incidence of auto-immune diseases.
With acculturation, the prevalence of auto-immune diseases are
increasing in these populations and may approach Western levels.
Experimentally, we know that the expression of certain
auto-immune diseases (e.g. insulin dependent diabetes mellitus
IDDM) increases in animal models when they are fed high cereal
grain diets.
We believe that cereal grains may influence immune function by
the ability of their lectins (specifically wheat germ
agglutinin-WGA) to allow passage of undegraded dietary antigens
and antigens derived from intestinal pathogens (viruses and
bacteria) to peripheral tissue.
Through a process called molecular mimicry, in which there are
structural similarities between the body's own tissue and that
of the dietary antigen and/or the intestinal pathogen antigen,
the immune system loses the ability to distinguish self tissue
from non-self tissue and mounts an immune attack upon the body's
own tissue. Many of these structural similarities between cereal
grain peptides and the body's own tissues seem to involve
collagenous tissues.
Robert Crayhon:
Which
grains have protein sequences closest to human collagen tissue?
Loren Cordain:
The
literature suggests that the alcohol soluble portion of wheat
contains peptide sequences that may mimic peptide sequences in
the body. But it's a more complicated issue than that. It has to
do with the genetics of the person with the auto-immune disease
as well.
Robert Crayhon:
The
upshot of all this is that it couldn't hurt if you've got an
auto-immune disease to try a grain-free diet.
Loren Cordain:
Well,
it's more than grain-free. We found again from a Paleolithic
perspective that humans didn't drink a lot of dairy, nor did
they consume legumes or yeast-containing foods. Dairy, legumes,
and yeast contain peptides with amino acid sequence that are
homologous to amino acid sequences in a variety of human tissues
as well.
Robert Crayhon:
What
about other foods such as fowl, fish, and fruits and vegetables?
Are these foods that are relatively free of these similar
proteins?
Loren Cordain:
Generally speaking, most people don't have trouble with land
based flesh foods. Some people have trouble with shellfish or
seafood from an immunological perspective. Elimination diets
tend not to use shellfish or fish, as some people have trouble
with these.
Robert Crayhon:
But as
you've said, the grains, the dietary products, the legumes, and
yeast are the much more likely suspects. Any closing comments on
the immune problems caused by the agricultural revolution before
we close our discussion?
Loren Cordain:
I
think we need to have clinical trials obviously eliminating
these kinds of foods: cereal grains, dairy products, legumes,
and yeast. This would be difficult for people who have been
weaned on a Western diet, but humans throughout most of the
course of our stay on this planet did not eat those foods or
rarely ate those foods.
These proteins are alien to our immune system. We would hope
that clinical trials involving elimination of these suspect
peptides will be done in the future and hopefully may be of
benefit to people with autoimmune problems.
Robert Crayhon:
Dr.
Cordain, thank you for spending time with us today and sharing
these groundbreaking ideas with us. Your work embodies
Stravinsky's phrase that "revolution means going back all the
way around to where you started from".
Loren Cordain:
My
pleasure, Robert.
